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ES Steering Bearing Locknut

PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 3:28 pm
by Jamb0
Has anyone in the UK got the steering bearing lock nut from an ES that they'd be willing to let me have for reasonable compensation? It's a M32 X 1mm Pitch, 7mm depth and is nigh on impossible to get hold of.

Would be lovely if MZ had considered using standard fixing sizes instead of inventing sizes just for one model of bike :x

Re: ES Steering Bearing Locknut

PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 3:12 am
by DAVID THOMPSON
are you sure about the 1.0 pitch that's the thread pitch of an old wv valve adjuster

i am finding bunch of 1,5 pitch in 32 no 1.0

dave

Re: ES Steering Bearing Locknut

PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:29 am
by breakwellmz
You can buy M32 x 1mm taps and dies so it must be a standard metric fine. The nut is only 7mm thick so that`s the only way to get a reasonable number of threads in there.

Re: ES Steering Bearing Locknut

PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 7:17 am
by Puffs
Following a biased and flawed moderator choice (someone posting aggressive personal attacks is rewarded, while my technical posts are removed - behind my back & without any justification!), I have withdrawn from this forum.

Re: ES Steering Bearing Locknut

PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 8:15 am
by Jamb0
Thanks for the responses.

Yep it's definitely M32 X 1mm. It snapped while I was undoing it (to my surprise; it was stiff but was unscrewing without much resistance). I jumped on eBay and quickly found plenty of m32 nuts with a 1.5 pitch but figured I'd just check with a thread pitch guage before ordering, which is when I realised I should have left it to soak in wd40 before going at it :oops:

I can find a couple of new old stock items from the usual European suppliers (which confirms the sizing), but since I've just put in a big order with ost2rad and had no plans to spend a silly amount on postage for a single nut, as well as Brexit now being a thing which I'm not sure as to whether that will sting even more on postage/import costs, I figured I could just put the question out there incase on the very rare chance that someone had a spare floating around that they would be willing to sell me.

I'm currently in the process of refurbing the electrics so if I'm lucky I'll discover a few more bits that need ordering which will at least slightly ease the blow on potential postage/import costs from the eu

Re: ES Steering Bearing Locknut

PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:27 am
by Puffs
Ta for the info.
Indeed odd for MZ chose such an uncommon size then - or maybe it wasn't in those days. Maybe it was Honecker's ideal size...

Good luck.

Re: ES Steering Bearing Locknut

PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 10:59 am
by breakwellmz
Jamb0 wrote:Thanks for the responses.

Yep it's definitely M32 X 1mm. It snapped while I was undoing it (to my surprise; it was stiff but was unscrewing without much resistance). I jumped on eBay and quickly found plenty of m32 nuts with a 1.5 pitch but figured I'd just check with a thread pitch guage before ordering, which is when I realised I should have left it to soak in wd40 before going at it :oops:

I can find a couple of new old stock items from the usual European suppliers (which confirms the sizing), but since I've just put in a big order with ost2rad and had no plans to spend a silly amount on postage for a single nut, as well as Brexit now being a thing which I'm not sure as to whether that will sting even more on postage/import costs, I figured I could just put the question out there incase on the very rare chance that someone had a spare floating around that they would be willing to sell me.

I'm currently in the process of refurbing the electrics so if I'm lucky I'll discover a few more bits that need ordering which will at least slightly ease the blow on potential postage/import costs from the eu

One on Ebay which confirms your measurements (not that i doubted you :wink: ) - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Befestigungs ... SwF6dgAFuC
And another - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mz-Es-150-Nu ... Swqf5f41iw Shame about the postage costs!

The later MZs use a M32 x 1.5 stem and nut it seems.

Re: ES Steering Bearing Locknut

PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 12:16 pm
by Jamb0
breakwellmz wrote:One on Ebay which confirms your measurements (not that i doubted you :wink: ) - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Befestigungs ... SwF6dgAFuC
And another - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mz-Es-150-Nu ... Swqf5f41iw Shame about the postage costs!

The later MZs use a M32 x 1.5 stem and nut it seems.


Not to worry I make enough mistakes that it's only reasonable to be doubted sometimes!!

As it happens you may have just saved me (even if it was inadvertently). The top item you linked me to, I have never seen before during my trawl of eBay - you must have better searching skills than I! Now <£15 posted is a price I can work with; the issue was that I could not find anything below around £30 posted. While I didn't have a problem with the price itself, it was more the feeling that I was being robbed having to pay £30 for a single nut (naturally, knowing full well that I'd need to order something from the exact same site and pay the same postage again, less a month later) :smt005

But after all, would we really bother looking after weird 47 year old communist bikes if we didn't enjoy constant frustration and unreasonable prices for spares?

Re: ES Steering Bearing Locknut

PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 3:53 am
by breakwellmz
Ha ha. Progress of a sort then. Nothing else he has that you might need to soften the p and p blow?
I think i put " MZ ES nut" in the Ebay search.
Have you checked out the UK MZ riders? - https://www.mzridersclub.com/Welcome/

Re: ES Steering Bearing Locknut

PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 5:59 am
by Puffs
Jamb0 wrote:But after all, would we really bother looking after weird 47 year old communist bikes if we didn't enjoy constant frustration and unreasonable prices for spares?

Nah, don't complain. Parts are available, and that cannot be said for other bikes/brands.

Re: ES Steering Bearing Locknut

PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:33 am
by Jamb0
Puffs wrote:
Jamb0 wrote:But after all, would we really bother looking after weird 47 year old communist bikes if we didn't enjoy constant frustration and unreasonable prices for spares?

Nah, don't complain. Parts are available, and that cannot be said for other bikes/brands.


True - admittedly this was the first time I've really banged my head against the wall, more so when I could have avoided snapping the nut by being more liberal with the wd40 and leaving it overnight instead of being impatient.

For the most part MZ have been pretty good with standardised fixings, only other problem item I've come across was the armature fixing bolt, although once I figured out it was actually M7 and not m8 it wasn't impossible to find a supplier.

In other news I've had my lockdown project ES running really well for a few months now but it's in hibernation at the moment which I saw as a good opportunity to sort out the combination mains flex/corroded original wiring loom with a proper colour coded replacement. Should be able to get some photos of the bike up here soon and finally get some real riding in once it warms up.

Cheers for the help everybody