Tail light help needed.

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Tail light help needed.

Postby barko1 » Tue Sep 29, 2015 1:58 pm

Discovered my tail light isn't working, bulb is good, just not seeming to get power through the grey wire that feeds it. Any ideas where to look for a bad connection up front? My eyes rather crossed looking at the wiring diagram trying to figure out where that wire reappears after disappearing into the harness. Headlight works, brake light works, just lacking juice that powers the tail lamp. Its a Sport Cup. Any ideas where to look are appreciated.
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Re: Tail light help needed.

Postby DAVID THOMPSON » Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:26 pm

here is a drawing i have thanks to tony idle from several years ago

put main switch in park position if you have a front parking lamp and instruments

i would suspect the diode in the upper part of the drawing

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Re: Tail light help needed.

Postby WaiNYC » Tue Sep 29, 2015 7:23 pm

Allow me to hijack this thread for a post.

Does anyone know where to get, or the model number for, the light switch for the rear brake pedal? My Skorpion Sport's brake light works for the front but not the rear brake. I suspect the switch is busted.
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Re: Tail light help needed.

Postby DAVID THOMPSON » Tue Sep 29, 2015 8:26 pm

front is Aprilia or bmw r80 abot 82 83 r65 bmw maybe the 72 to about 75 HD AERMACCHI ss250 ss350
FOUND SWITCH AT BMW SHOP
BMW NUMBER= 61 31 1 244 070
front brake light switch
FITS BUNCH OF STUFF bmw apperlia ktm


Hydraulic rear brake light switch for Skorpion Tour (maybe others) is Aprillia #81244679. Thread is 10x1 mm.

probably same for other mz/muz
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Re: Tail light help needed.

Postby edfmaniac » Tue Sep 29, 2015 8:36 pm

WaiNYC wrote:Allow me to hijack this thread for a post.

Does anyone know where to get, or the model number for, the light switch for the rear brake pedal? My Skorpion Sport's brake light works for the front but not the rear brake. I suspect the switch is busted.



It's a pressure switch isn't it. You just need to match the threads with any banjo bolt pressure switch. I think the threads are M10x1.00. A post I read said to avoid Japanese shops because most of their switches are threaded in M10x1.25. Go to a Ducati or KTM dealership or order online.
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Re: Tail light help needed.

Postby DAVID THOMPSON » Tue Sep 29, 2015 11:39 pm

BACK ON TOPIC

check plug on harness from switch and wires on back of switch they have been known to come loose
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Re: Tail light help needed.

Postby den » Wed Sep 30, 2015 1:03 pm

oh , i know , lift the tank off , up front on the right ,there's a small black plug,9 pin i think , its loom will look all bent where its hugging the side,,pull it out and youll find one of the double black wires broke loose,,fyi,if you have spare computer flyleads,,the crimps are the same,i just soldered it back on , alls good
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Re: front Master Cylinder "threads are M10x1.00"

Postby cmg241 » Tue Oct 13, 2015 1:49 pm

edfmaniac wrote:
WaiNYC wrote:Allow me to hijack this thread for a post.

Does anyone know where to get, or the model number for, the light switch for the rear brake pedal? My Skorpion Sport's brake light works for the front but not the rear brake. I suspect the switch is busted.



It's a pressure switch isn't it. You just need to match the threads with any banjo bolt pressure switch. I think the threads are M10x1.00. A post I read said to avoid Japanese shops because most of their switches are threaded in M10x1.25. Go to a Ducati or KTM dealership or order online.



Can anyone confirm the threads? I need a Front new master cylinder and a banjo bolt pressure switch since most available are like this.
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Re: Tail light help needed.

Postby Henry74 » Mon Oct 19, 2015 7:48 am

recently i had the same problem. By any chance did you recently unplugged the front pilot lamp?
If you did and switched the plugs you may have shorted some wires.

If not adn you want to replace the diode the rating is 6 amps 400 volts more or less P600B or highter.

What I did is took out the wiring loom and checked the wires one by one. they are prone to crackling.
If you dont want this I suggest to trace the offending grey wire from the rear to the front.
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Re: Tail light help needed.

Postby den » Mon Oct 19, 2015 1:56 pm

This is a dead thread, barko 1 the poster hasn't responded to anyone answers so why bother,Hate selfish posters,,others on the forum could have learned from his bike issue,,Anyway, i had the same fault and posted fix here,,didn't say whether it worked for him or not. :(
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Re: front Master Cylinder "threads are M10x1.00"

Postby WaiNYC » Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:27 pm

cmg241 wrote:Can anyone confirm the threads? I need a Front new master cylinder and a banjo bolt pressure switch since most available are like this.
Thanks
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cmg241... I just ordered a banjo bolt pressure switch for my 95 Skorpion. I can confirm the thread size when it arrives :-)
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Re: front Master Cylinder "threads are M10x1.00"

Postby cmg241 » Thu Jun 02, 2016 2:20 pm

WaiNYC wrote:
cmg241 wrote:Can anyone confirm the threads? I need a Front new master cylinder and a banjo bolt pressure switch since most available are like this.
Thanks
Chris g


cmg241... I just ordered a banjo bolt pressure switch for my 95 Skorpion. I can confirm the thread size when it arrives :-)



I purchased this on Amazon as an almost act of desperation and it works! Cheap money and it included a clutch lever I did not need

http://www.amazon.com/Hanpearl-Universa ... ge_o03_s00
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Re: Tail light help needed.

Postby DAVID THOMPSON » Thu Jun 02, 2016 2:30 pm

do save the lever for the future.
if you do not have a broken one in your collection ....
WAIT a few months
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Re: Tail light help needed.

Postby cmg241 » Thu Jun 02, 2016 3:06 pm

DAVID THOMPSON wrote:do save the lever for the future.
if you do not have a broken one in your collection ....
WAIT a few months
dave


Crap Dave I used to race an R6 on one of the most dangerous tracks in the US, NHMS. I once broke two in one day :( The nice thing about supermotos is that they weigh so little compared to "big bikes" that when they do fall, they do not tend to break nearly as much. I was taking her Baggy to a track day this weekend but had to bag out just today due the flu..
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Re: Tail light help needed.

Postby DAVID THOMPSON » Thu Jun 02, 2016 4:53 pm

when one of my MZ bikes falls over it always breaks a lever
its been setting for a year and broke the clutch lever when it fell over in the shop
when the sidestand collapsed for the 3rd time since it was new in 2002
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